Jon Moxley Has Second Post-WWE Interview: 'I Don't Think Vince McMahon Knows What The F**k Is Going On'

Last week, Jon Moxley appeared on Chris Jericho's

podcast and almost damn well broke the internet.

More recently, Moxley appeared on

, and once again spoke about his frustrations while dealing with Vince McMahon's creative process in WWE (thanks to

for the following transcription): "Looking back, Vince is like...the problem. Vince himself is a problem.

"It's a shame. I'm telling you that's the problem. I was just there; I know the ins and outs. He's a problem. It's a shame because there's so much great talent. There may have never been more talent there. All the wrestlers are awesome. The pool of talent is incredible and the resources they have with the television and the Network. It should be so great. And the one guy screwing it up, I think, is Vince. Everybody seems to like NXT. I've never been there to see how the days go, so I can't speak about how it is in NXT. But everybody seems to like the show. What's the key ingredient that's missing? Vince. He's the guy who 'created wrestling.' Now he's the guy who's holding his own company back. He needs to step aside or take a break. Maybe he should let Hunter run things for a month and see what happens.

"I have all the respect in the world for Vince because nobody works harder. But Vince is supposed to be a genius. There have been moments where I was wrong, and Vince was right -- I had a match with Seth Rollins at SummerSlam, and I want to build to a moment where I got him where I want him, but I have to punish him. My idea, which sounds ridiculous now, I wanted to take a pair of pliers from under the ring and go rip his tongue out. I was convinced it was a good idea. We pitch it to Vince and he goes, 'No, it's too much.' He said, 'Could you Curb Stomp him?' It was perfect. It was the most over thing in the match. After the match we're like, 'Ol VKM is still the man. He's still a genius.' -- I always try to give him the benefit of the doubt," said Moxley. "Even when I go to the ring and I think an idea sucks, but it's Vince's idea, I'm going to try my best because I might be wrong and Vince might be right. More often than not, I go out there and I go, 'Nope. This idea sucks.' Over time and looking back, I didn't see a lot of this 'genius' that is Vince McMahon. In the 80s he was a genius when he created Hulkamania and took over the territories. In 2019, I don't think he knows what the f**k is going on. He needs to figure it out or step aside."